<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: What is Film Noir?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://filmsnoir.net</link>
	<description>filmsnoir.net: an oasis of noir in a desert of banality</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 00:00:02 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cigar Joe</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-12251</link>
		<dc:creator>Cigar Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-12251</guid>
		<description>PS I&#039;m currently comprising a list of the darkest of the Noirs films that seem to be filmed in a world of perpetual night, from the Classic Noir period (the Hard Core Noir) so far these are the films (that I&#039;ve seen that fit the list.

The Big Combo 
Crime Wave
Raw Deal 
The Asphalt Jungle 
He Walked By Night 
Criss Cross 
The Narrow Margin 
Night And The City
Crossfire
Red Light
They Live By Night
Where Danger Lives
The Set Up
The Phantom Lady
Scarlett Street
Detour
The Window
99 River Street
Killers Kiss
The Killers
Double Indemnity
T Men
The Killing
Dead Reckoning
The Crooked Way
Edge of Doom
The Dark Corner
Where The Sidewalk Ends
Kiss Me Deadly
Sudden Fear

Looking forward to any additions/suggestions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I&#8217;m currently comprising a list of the darkest of the Noirs films that seem to be filmed in a world of perpetual night, from the Classic Noir period (the Hard Core Noir) so far these are the films (that I&#8217;ve seen that fit the list.</p>
<p>The Big Combo<br />
Crime Wave<br />
Raw Deal<br />
The Asphalt Jungle<br />
He Walked By Night<br />
Criss Cross<br />
The Narrow Margin<br />
Night And The City<br />
Crossfire<br />
Red Light<br />
They Live By Night<br />
Where Danger Lives<br />
The Set Up<br />
The Phantom Lady<br />
Scarlett Street<br />
Detour<br />
The Window<br />
99 River Street<br />
Killers Kiss<br />
The Killers<br />
Double Indemnity<br />
T Men<br />
The Killing<br />
Dead Reckoning<br />
The Crooked Way<br />
Edge of Doom<br />
The Dark Corner<br />
Where The Sidewalk Ends<br />
Kiss Me Deadly<br />
Sudden Fear</p>
<p>Looking forward to any additions/suggestions</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cigar Joe</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-12250</link>
		<dc:creator>Cigar Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-12250</guid>
		<description>This is a great book explaining the origins of Film Noir - Blackout: World War II and the Origins of Film Noir by Sheri Chinen Biesen (Oct 19, 2005), and its given me some new insight into what I&#039;m trying to quantify Hard Core/Soft Core Film Noir. I suggest everyone read it. Some quotes from the book below.

A number of elements all came together into what The New York Times tagged the &quot;red meat crime cycle&quot; (before French critics coined the term Film Noir) at the onset of WWII. &quot;The PCA&#039; s lapses in code enforcement, the Office of Censorship banning &quot;un-American&quot; Hollywood gangsters but condoning of depictions of war related atrocities, and the Office of War Information&#039;s regulation of screen stories depicting the combat front or domestic home front to promote the war effort---all of these developments complicated WWII censorship and encouraged hard-boiled film adaptations that initially reformed gangsters and promoted patriotic crime.&quot; Pictures were filmed with &quot;tremendous studio rationing of lighting, electricity, film stock, and set materials&quot; in an uncharacteristically dark urban Los Angeles basin in response to wartime blackouts.

The first Noir where all of the elements came together was Double Indemnity, and along with other wartime productions such as The Phantom Lady and, Murder My Sweet represented some of the most expressionistic, stylistically black phase of film noir (what I&#039;m calling the *Hard Core Noirs*). &quot;The noir aesthetic evolved from the wartime constraints on film making practices. Brooding, often brutal realism was conveyed in low lit images recycled sets (disguised by shadows, smoke, artificial fog, and rain), tarped studio back lots, or enclosed sound stages.

In the post war period film makers redefined noir realism having more flexibility in location shooting and lighting. Wartime Noir created a psychological atmosphere that in many ways marked a response to an increasingly realistic and understandable anxiety---about war, shortages, changing gender roles, and &quot;a world gone mad&quot;---that was distinctive from the later postwar paranoia about the bomb, the cold war, HUAC, and the blacklist which was more intrinsic to the late 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s Noir pictures.&quot; (lighter grayer or Films Gris, *Soft Core Noir*)

And you can see this in the films. Wilder&#039;s Double Indemnity is darker in visual style than 1950&#039;s Sunset Boulevard, Fritz Langs Ministry of Fear and Scarlett Street are darker than The Big Heat (1953). But there are some exceptions Aldrich&#039;s *Kiss Me Deadly*(1955) and Lewis&#039; *The Big Combo*(1955) are pretty dark, and *Kiss of Death* is sort of a hybrid the first 2/3rd&#039;s is visually gray but the last 1/3 after Tommy Udo is acquitted plummets nicely into the shadows, but the general trend outlined in the book is distinctive and sort of explains the reason for the range in the pallet of what is currently defined as Films Noir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great book explaining the origins of Film Noir &#8211; Blackout: World War II and the Origins of Film Noir by Sheri Chinen Biesen (Oct 19, 2005), and its given me some new insight into what I&#8217;m trying to quantify Hard Core/Soft Core Film Noir. I suggest everyone read it. Some quotes from the book below.</p>
<p>A number of elements all came together into what The New York Times tagged the &#8220;red meat crime cycle&#8221; (before French critics coined the term Film Noir) at the onset of WWII. &#8220;The PCA&#8217; s lapses in code enforcement, the Office of Censorship banning &#8220;un-American&#8221; Hollywood gangsters but condoning of depictions of war related atrocities, and the Office of War Information&#8217;s regulation of screen stories depicting the combat front or domestic home front to promote the war effort&#8212;all of these developments complicated WWII censorship and encouraged hard-boiled film adaptations that initially reformed gangsters and promoted patriotic crime.&#8221; Pictures were filmed with &#8220;tremendous studio rationing of lighting, electricity, film stock, and set materials&#8221; in an uncharacteristically dark urban Los Angeles basin in response to wartime blackouts.</p>
<p>The first Noir where all of the elements came together was Double Indemnity, and along with other wartime productions such as The Phantom Lady and, Murder My Sweet represented some of the most expressionistic, stylistically black phase of film noir (what I&#8217;m calling the *Hard Core Noirs*). &#8220;The noir aesthetic evolved from the wartime constraints on film making practices. Brooding, often brutal realism was conveyed in low lit images recycled sets (disguised by shadows, smoke, artificial fog, and rain), tarped studio back lots, or enclosed sound stages.</p>
<p>In the post war period film makers redefined noir realism having more flexibility in location shooting and lighting. Wartime Noir created a psychological atmosphere that in many ways marked a response to an increasingly realistic and understandable anxiety&#8212;about war, shortages, changing gender roles, and &#8220;a world gone mad&#8221;&#8212;that was distinctive from the later postwar paranoia about the bomb, the cold war, HUAC, and the blacklist which was more intrinsic to the late 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s Noir pictures.&#8221; (lighter grayer or Films Gris, *Soft Core Noir*)</p>
<p>And you can see this in the films. Wilder&#8217;s Double Indemnity is darker in visual style than 1950&#8242;s Sunset Boulevard, Fritz Langs Ministry of Fear and Scarlett Street are darker than The Big Heat (1953). But there are some exceptions Aldrich&#8217;s *Kiss Me Deadly*(1955) and Lewis&#8217; *The Big Combo*(1955) are pretty dark, and *Kiss of Death* is sort of a hybrid the first 2/3rd&#8217;s is visually gray but the last 1/3 after Tommy Udo is acquitted plummets nicely into the shadows, but the general trend outlined in the book is distinctive and sort of explains the reason for the range in the pallet of what is currently defined as Films Noir.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tony D'Ambra</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-10450</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony D'Ambra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 01:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-10450</guid>
		<description>Thanks Leo! Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Leo! Tony</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Leo Parascondola</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-10447</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Parascondola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-10447</guid>
		<description>Very informative and entertaining essay. I have recommended it to both students and colleagues on many occasions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative and entertaining essay. I have recommended it to both students and colleagues on many occasions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tony D'Ambra</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-9428</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony D'Ambra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-9428</guid>
		<description>Thanks Juan. Great to have feedback like yours. Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Juan. Great to have feedback like yours. Tony</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-9426</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-9426</guid>
		<description>Thanks for your site, I love how you have been so loyal to the genre. I am a fan too of noir. Some of my favorite titles are: &quot;Pickup on South Street&quot; and &quot;Quicksand&quot;. Thanks for your major contribution to the effort of keeping noir alive and well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your site, I love how you have been so loyal to the genre. I am a fan too of noir. Some of my favorite titles are: &#8220;Pickup on South Street&#8221; and &#8220;Quicksand&#8221;. Thanks for your major contribution to the effort of keeping noir alive and well!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tony D'Ambra</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-8439</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony D'Ambra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-8439</guid>
		<description>Thanks Joyce.  I am painfully aware of my shortcomings as a writer.  I wrote this nearly three years ago, and it certainly needs revision. Any insights you have will be welcome.  Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joyce.  I am painfully aware of my shortcomings as a writer.  I wrote this nearly three years ago, and it certainly needs revision. Any insights you have will be welcome.  Tony</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joyce</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-8437</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-8437</guid>
		<description>Extremely well written, Tony, and as an English prof., I know my stuff.  Out of the Past is on TCM tonight, and I wanted a good explanation of film noir, which you provided--artfully. Let me know if you are able to edit ( not biggies), and I&#039;ll tell you where to look.  Read carefully. You should be able to find the spots yourself.

Keep writing.  You&#039;re exceptionally talented!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely well written, Tony, and as an English prof., I know my stuff.  Out of the Past is on TCM tonight, and I wanted a good explanation of film noir, which you provided&#8211;artfully. Let me know if you are able to edit ( not biggies), and I&#8217;ll tell you where to look.  Read carefully. You should be able to find the spots yourself.</p>
<p>Keep writing.  You&#8217;re exceptionally talented!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tony D'Ambra</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-7778</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony D'Ambra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-7778</guid>
		<description>Thanks Kate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kate!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/comment-page-1#comment-7776</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://filmsnoir.net/?page_id=967#comment-7776</guid>
		<description>Oh my! Awesome site which explains so well the &#039;conventions&#039; of the genre. Thank you, it helps a lot
Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my! Awesome site which explains so well the &#8216;conventions&#8217; of the genre. Thank you, it helps a lot<br />
Kate</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
<!-- This Quick Cache file was built for (  filmsnoir.net/what-is-film-noir/feed ) in 1.56799 seconds, on May 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm UTC. -->
<!-- This Quick Cache file will automatically expire ( and be re-built automatically ) on May 23rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm UTC -->
